Episode #559: Breaking Down Misconceptions-Kristin Anderson Discusses the Art and Science of Pilates

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This is Pete Moore on Halo Talks nyc. I have the pleasure of

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bringing a Halo alumni academy member

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and a evangelist in this industry for quite some

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time. She's probably touched many lives and friends of friends of yours

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out of the California area where I used to live. So welcome to

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your first Halo Talks inaugural Halo talks for

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Kristen Anderson. Good to see you. Thanks again, Pete. It's

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great to see you too. And I always enjoy talking to you and,

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and always love hearing what you're doing in the world because you just don't stop.

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And I love it. Yeah, I think there was a song like don't stop till

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your body rocks get up. So we could do that. We can play that as

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like an interlude. Just cue my audio guys. Get that Royaltyfree.

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All right, so look, you've been, you've been one of the,

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you know, innovators in this industry, obviously like somewhat ahead of the curve

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on what people want, what people need.

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Every time you and I talk we kind of say like here, here's what I'm

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working on. And then like people start talking about it a year later. Like yourself

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was like, you know, you knew the next, next episode or the next season.

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So give us an update on your. Wait, I don't need it. But

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tell people a little bit about what your background is and how, where you're focused.

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Thank you, Pete. My name is Kristen Anderson. I am a high

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profile Pilates teacher out of Los Angeles for my day job and

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for the rest of my life. I basically, I see the world in

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movement study. I grew up as a competitive figure skater. I have

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basically not stopped moving. I got an accounting degree on purpose so I could have

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my own businesses and open my own studios and make my own choices.

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And in the decades that I've been doing that, you

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are right. I. I'm very good at seeing, like, where the world's going or

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how people are going to go, because gravity doesn't quit, time doesn't stop,

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and it affects all of us. And if I don't

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put myself out there in the world and find community and identity and,

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you know, and what I believe in, then I don't do well. So this

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is my space. And you're right, I've had a. I've had a few products

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that have been very successful. And the. It is hard a little

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bit to see ahead of the curve because you get frustrated or people don't believe

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you. However, it gives you the time to not just develop something, but

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really understand how to integrate it. And so currently,

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I've just started working on my newest app and my newest

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concept, which is basically, you don't need to

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work out for an hour and do all this massive suffering and take

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out some of your life because you want to be fit or healthier, unless that's

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what you want. And that's different. But. But what I've really noticed is that

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some kind of movement, regardless of who you are, will

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get you some endorphins. One will get you a little unstuck from

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wherever you're stuck, whether it's moving or not, and that actually influences the rest of

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your life and all these other areas that we're always trying to

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knock down. Like, for example, from the beginning of time,

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human beings are like in pursuit of four different things. Whether you want to

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call it the elements, like air, water, know, earth, fire, or

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you want to call it freedom of speech, freedom, express, and freedom of,

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you know, scarcity and religion. We are all trying

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to obtain these things both independently and as

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a collective. And what I can often see is

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where I intersect with that and then where others intersect with that. And

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it is one of my favorite things to just work with people and to just

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kind of listen and see what I can see and what I can feel. And

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it gives me super great joy to help somebody or

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empower somebody to move better. I mean, I make

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suggestions and that person has to do it or not, and then they usually pass

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that on and then I feel better and the world goes around.

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Let me ask you a question on that before you move on. So don't forget

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your thought. But you impact a lot of people's

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lives locally through your pilates and through your personal

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training, what gives you, like, the

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inertia or, like, desire to say, like, I need to scale this

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because some people come to us and say, hey, I'm doing this awesome thing locally.

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And like, you're. You're affecting hundreds of people. Right. And now, like, I

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want to expand it to thousands. And. And I know, you know, you're

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like me. Like, I don't really. I'm not doing things because I'm trying to make

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a certain amount of money. I'm doing things because, like, I feel like

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the universe is like, telling me to, like, you know, expand this because more people

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need to hear this or so how do you think. And then you could get

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back to whatever else you were saying? Well, that. That's okay. Sorry

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for the interlude here, but I need it. Yeah. And

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because you're right, that's, you know, to a fault sometimes I really. I'm not there

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to make money. I'm there because I can see the positive effect it has on

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people. And at the end of the day, I know if I

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have a positive effect on somebody else, it will go around and around and around.

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And I really have an I. I really believe in the power of one person.

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And just like that, almost the butterfly effect of, if I can help

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you, then you can help someone else. And it's not just my expertise.

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It's almost the opposite of that. It's like once you. I mean, I can distill

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it down to some just basic thought or basic movement, and that really

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inspires somebody. And to give someone the gift of a better day

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is kind of my purpose. And then if you can do that for somebody that's

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not like you or it doesn't seem like they're like you, then it

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spreads on. And we are all the same. We're kind of the same human

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body, all of us, whether we. However we operate it, it's different.

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But we all age. And if we don't, it's the alternative.

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We all are affected by our endocrine system, by gravity, by

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time, by situations in life coming up. And as you know, if

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you. When you get out of your own way and you help somebody, there's no

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better feeling. And then you can rest at night because you know that you made

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a difference in that day. You know, it's interesting, when I was out

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in California, I. I was watching the sunset

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and I was thinking to myself, like, 1. How far away is. Is the sun?

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Okay, to your gravity comment,

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it turns out it's 95 million miles away. So when you see a ray of

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light that hit your eyes, it took like, I want to say it's like nine

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minutes to actually get from the sun to you. And also I was like,

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how fast are we going? Okay, on this planet? Because everyone's, like, in

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a rush all the time. And I looked that up and actually the Earth is

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rotating around the sun at the

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slow speed of 66, 000 miles an hour.

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Okay. And it's rotating at 1200 miles an hour. So I usually

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say to people, like, the only thing you really need to focus on to be

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like, not really upset about whatever's going on in your life is

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gravity. Okay. Yeah. Because you'd have to own, like a cement

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business to stay on this thing if there wasn't a

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gravitational pull to actually keep you here. So on your, on your,

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on your point of, like, slowing down, understanding where you are, making sure I have

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a good day and do the right things, I thought that was an interesting, like,

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set of, like, metrics I was trying to get a hold of because I was

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like, you ever. You got to know how fast you're going in everything except, like,

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on the planet. Yeah. And that's a, that's a perfect

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perspective. And it's like, you know, it's. That is exactly what I'm talking about.

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If you just stop for a second, throw yourself in neutral and look around,

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you know, it's all right here for us. And there's things we can't control. Gravity

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is the best example. And it's, it wins every time, you know,

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basically. So, you know, what are some of the things when you look

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at your, when you look at your day right now, how do

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you construct your day to, you know, taking care of

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yourself, taking care of other people, you know, work related.

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Obviously, the thousand ideas that you don't write them all down like me and probably

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have a clipboard of like, oh, that's a great idea. Like I should. That's like

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a 20, 26 idea. And somehow kind of, you know, put that

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in your Dropbox. And then do you want to change any of that? Or like,

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what, you know, where are you? Where you say, like, look, I think I figured

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this out. You know, let me, let me give you some wisdom.

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You know, it's, that's a, it's a really great question because

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it's, you know, I keep thinking that I, I want to

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work less with people one on one, and I want to, like, walk my dog

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more and I want to get into my personal, like, sports and fitness

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more. And then I. I'm at the place in my life where I can make

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those choices, and then I do. And then it's like, oh, but not who

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I am. This is not how I feed my humanity. And so what I've done

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is kind of. Kind of chopped up my year in like. Like

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blocks, almost like quarters. Like, okay, for this amount of time, I'm going to work

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with clients, you know, for four months or six months, so I can get

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to someplace with them. And then I always have a bigger picture in mind about

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what kind of movement study can people take in, will they take in,

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and, you know, do they want. And then I can take that concept after four

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months and. And we have technology, and then I can kind of shop it around

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the world and see if people are receptive or not. And then the

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other thing I've learned is if a kid or a young

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person, like somebody under 25, can

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understand, accept, and then, like, put forth any of my ideas

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or concepts, then it's fine. And anyone who doesn't accept it has

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their own stuff in the way. So I've learned to have a balance of, like,

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you know, being in the middle. Like, I. Younger people, mentors,

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older people. And then, like, when we were talking, it's

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community, not being lonely. It's, you know, fighting

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for, like, what you believe in. Like, you're really about, you know, getting rid of

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childhood diabetes and obesity, because those things are still around and

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you can't sleep at night when, you know, when it's out there going on. And

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I have that same thing. It's like, it's just a tiny bit of movement. Makes

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me feel better, you feel better, and then I still have time to do all

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my other things, because when I get out of balance, it's not good. And I've

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got. I've been fortunate enough to learn that about myself. So I stay in

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balance with a bunch of clients, some kind of sport, some

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kind of person that I'm mentoring and then being, you know, mentored myself.

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This is Pete Moore. I want to let you in on a little secret. There's

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this company called Promotion Vault. And what they do is they give out rewards

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from retailers that allow you to incentivize your

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members without having to do zero down and one month free

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or giving away shakes or giving away T shirts. What you want to

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do is build a rewards program that lasts, that people

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value and that doesn't discount your own products and services.

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So here's the deal. There's something called Rewards Vault. The Rewards

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Vault is going to Allow a member to set up their own profile.

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They are going to answer questions, you are going to get those answers, going to

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be able to target those members, and you're going to reward them inside your

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club, inside your spa, and outside of the club and outside

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of the spa to get them to become loyal, to get them to pay

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their monthly dues, and to be rewarded properly for

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the actions. A lot of companies are cutting back on rewards. You shouldn't

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be. Promotion vault your answer. Trust me, this is real.

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The term feed your humanity, by the way, I don't know if that's like, trademark.

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Is that from somewhere else? Did you kind of. Kind of come up with that?

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Just Googled it real quick. It's like some people donated blood in

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Bulgaria. Oh. That I know. That I just came up with in that,

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in this moment, might get a. Cease and desist from the Bulgarians, but besides that,

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let's use it until we lose it. Yeah, it's all good. It's

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all good promotion. It's like, hey, then like, okay, maybe we do donate

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blood. I don't know, but I like that. Yeah. So.

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So talk about ways that people that are listening to this podcast

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can interact with you. Well, I

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have my. My own podcast called the Pilates power hour in 20 minutes,

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and no one wants to hear me ramble on for 20 minutes. So what that

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is is basically where Pilates, or movement intersects

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in someone's life journey and why they discovered her and why not

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and how come it matters. And so, like, for

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example, I. I'll do something. I'll look at why Taylor Swift does

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Pilates because she. Swifty, by the way. I am

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a Swiftie, and she's a huge Pilates. I am a huge

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Swiftie, by the way. Huge. So this is why we get along. It's

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the foundational. It was the best weekend of my life.

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Oh, my God. It's hard to get those tickets. Really? I mean, yeah, no, no,

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you have. To use a credit card and you have to, like, call and say,

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like, can I put it this amount on it? That's how you get them. Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Okay. I get that. I like that. And for me, I try to

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use my connections. Like, I. I'm really careful with them, but not, you know, when

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you got to do it, you got to do it. How did you lever that?

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A couple times for Swifty concerts. Just once.

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Okay. It's cool. All right, Go back to the well again. Next. Next. Yeah, yeah.

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So. So, like, for example, it's. She cites Pilates as why

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she doesn't fall down on stage. And why she can have balance and longevity along

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with straight training and cardio. Then you cut over to shout out. To Riley

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Mitchell, who made me a swifty. Thank you, my goddaughter. So

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good. See, it's the Youngs. They keep us in line. It's good stuff.

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And then like, you know, even though they did lose this year, the Kansas City

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Chiefs literally have Pilates as part of their training

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regimen. Two hours a week. Because studies now show that it,

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it takes down on upper body injuries, neck injuries,

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and then like, you know, chest and core injuries. So you have all kinds of

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people understanding that movement or certain kinds of movement, you don't

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have to do it forever, but it really does help you, you know,

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live a better life, a longer life, a safer life. And so that's. And then

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it's like regular people, like my hair person, she does Pilates because

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she's like, it's the best return on investment. She's like, I do 20 minutes.

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Yeah. And it's assistance, resistance, two directions fighting gravity from the inside out.

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She's like, and I stand all day and I don't want to do exercise after

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that. So it's it. Becky to do applies. I got on my soul

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cycle kick and like now I got my swifties. I gotta listen to my

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playlist. Yeah, I got a lot going on here. I might have to do like

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12, 12 to 30 minutes of Pilates every day. I have a question for

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you. So back in 2000,

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2010, I was working with a company

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and they had owned a different, a couple companies. One of them was Power Pilates.

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And I don't think I fully appreciated the, the

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power of Pilates at the time. I did some solid core

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classes. I did some other classes at some boutique studios.

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And I absolutely felt like from a, you know,

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life changing your body in the least amount of

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days and the way you feel was

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definitely like the best value for me and also like the

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quickest return on, on time.

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This is like an odd, like, everyone's talking about Pilates now. It's like,

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applause this plus that. There's a new reformer, there's new that, and that's awesome. My

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question to you is like, does Pilates kind of have a tipping

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point because other workouts have like a ten year horizon.

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I just wonder like, you know, how like there's not going to be like a

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Pilates next to every, like McDonald's well,

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here's what I maybe, I don't know, could be a cool combo, combo

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meal. So there's like constants and fads, right? So we know

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it's not a fad, it's a constant. And almost all physical therapy is based on

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it. So basically what you're doing, whether you're doing mat,

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Pilates or machine Pilates, is you're changing gravity a little bit by

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repeating the same movements you would functionally, but let's say lying down with assistance

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and resistance. So your body gets this little bit of air, not

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air, but a little bit of space in between your joints, ligaments, muscles, just

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enough for fresh blood to kind of come in and then take away the

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junk, add some nutrients. And so your kind of getting this

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re oxygenated moment where you, you don't have gravity but

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you're also pulling yourself apart almost like being in water. And so

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what I think is you're going to start to see like school kids

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and that kind of thing. Instead of having calisthenic based understanding, they're going to have

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a Pilates based understanding. I mean like just weight training. I love strength training, I

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love heavy lifting and I do, I lift more because I, I

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apply the methodology of like pulling and pushing. So I'm setting

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my muscle series up and then I'm driving through it. And I think that

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be just the adoption of Pilates in, in high level sports

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and the crucialness of it is, is really where it's at and things

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that are going to last take a long time to take hold, you know, and

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that's, and I mean it's been. Around 60 years now or more. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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And it's like what's the date? Let's get the right 54,

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1954. I was pretty close. I don't want to fill

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my audience with, you know, my own statistics unless I make them up myself.

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You know, then you can be responsible for them. But yeah, that's when it arrived

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in New York City happenstance that Joseph Pilates found

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a space next to Martha Graham studio. So it wasn't designed for dancers but it

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was landed next to dancers. And a dancer type of person

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is, you know, very cerebral in their

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physical movements and they're also physical. And Pilates is a lot of

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connecting things in different series of stuff. So it spoke to the dancers, they

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spoke to that crowd, didn't get marketed and then those people kind of took it

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out from there. And then it really popped in the 90s when celebrities

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started to do it, you know, in, in La and then like, you know,

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magazines started to show them doing it. And that's. All of a sudden it took

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off. And that's where we had the Pilates classes or Pilates

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certifications on every corner. And then the Wall Street Journal did this

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expose. I'm like, how many hours has your Pilates teachers had? Because people were getting

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hurt and all that. So I think we've passed the.

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We've passed at least the certification. Understanding that is a little deeper

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than that. But I think what we're getting into is people kind of

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putting the word Pilates on like a stick in a band, which is. Can be

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easily. I mean, I can take make Pilates out of a pencil, but it's because

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I understand. I dare you, I double dog dare. You to do it. Do it

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right now. I got a breaking news. I got a

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breaking news. It was started in the summer of 1914,

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and it was in Germany right around World War I starting

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Joseph. Yes. And then it gravitated to the US after that. So

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I just want all my listeners here to know that we're over 100 years of

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Joseph Pilates, but probably like 50ish years of

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Joseph Pilates in the US market. So he. So

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he was kind of a sickly ish kid. And so he would study the movement

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of animals and he would try to take acrobatic and this and that. And he

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noticed that when animals move or like run, they hit the ground and

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they pull themselves through the motion. So he was really coming from

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nature as he was developing this. And then he's a nurse in World War I,

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guys are in traction, like their arms and legs are hanging. And he

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realizes, oh, my God, when you get up after your arms and legs

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are healed, you're gonna just fall right down because your core is mush. So he

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would start to help soldiers move their arms and legs through that

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traction machine so their core would be ready when they stood up. And then he

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gets on a boat, he meets his wife Clara Pilates on the way to New

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York. And here we go. Her last name was Pilates.

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Clarence wasn't in the beginning, but yeah. You know what's funny is every once in

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a while, I. There's a lot of Kristens where I live. And so I'm like,

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Kristen Pilot, you know, KP Kristen Pilates. And there's like Kristen Hildebrandt

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this. Every once in a while you'll get somebody who's like, your last name is

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Pilates. It's great. That's nice right there. Can't be any.

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Any better, you know, like, respect than that, you know, or

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like, no. And it's like. And let them come for me in that same way

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of like, you know, the. The Bulgarian blood.

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just as good as the workout.

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And let's make it clear that Joseph Pilates did not start

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this with a number two lead pencil. No, he

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had many chains and machines that were well made and they're still standing today. They're

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a little kind of like a torture, you know, area to be.

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You know, you go on there, the Cadillac. You know, I remember when we partnered

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with this group, it was kind of intimidating, you know, to like, go on with

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those things. And, you know, it was a large machine and it was like one

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on one. And it wasn't like, we're doing a private or a semi

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private. It's not really for, like an audience, you know. No. So you can't really

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get. You can't be like, yo, what's going on there? Let me, like, watch. Like,

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you don't, like, watch somebody do Pilates at least? No, you don't. And

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that is actually really true. And I, I've never heard it said like that, but

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yes. And then people are like, is it. Okay the way I said

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it or no? Oh, no, it's. It's true. That's actually a perfect.

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Just feed your humanity. Keep going. Yeah, exactly.

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And I like to say, like, people are like, especially guys like yourself. They're like,

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oh, is this. Is this a lady exercise? Whatever. And I'm like, it's never turned

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anybody into a lady. Not any man. Or woman. The first time I

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did Pilates I was like, the next day I woke up like, damn, yeah, good.

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I know I can handle this. The second day I could not move like physically.

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I couldn't get out of my car anyway. Awesome.

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So you know, as you think about where the industry's going, you know, you've

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got solid core, that's been really successful. You've got, you know,

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inside of large clubs. Pilates has been, you know, a great

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revenue generator, a great way to get members engaged.

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Where do you see things over the next like five years with basically like

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maybe like an over overexposure

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to Pilates? As long as somebody doesn't come out with like $9 pilates, I think

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we're okay. Yeah, I think what's going to happen is

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people understand that they don't have to have these long periods of

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repertoire that they can take these more like bite

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size or specific size areas of Pilates. Like if you're sport

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recovery, you're going to do a certain kind of series of pil based

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movement for sport recovery versus sport preparation or

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just rehab or all the things that it's used for now but like

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takes up a lot of time or needs a lot of education. I think especially

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with AI and technology you're going to be able to, you know, talk to your

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Pilates bot, let's say, and then just get what you need because

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it does inform the human body against gravity because it doesn't

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quit and it always makes people feel good. It helps pull your bones up. It

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gives you about four hours of extra cushion, you know, throughout the day. So I

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think it's going to become part of how people understand

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calisthenics or push ups or running or something like that. It's going to become

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normalized and yes, so we're going to get the, you know, we're going to the

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bump of things that are a little bit over marketed but I really think that

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it sticks because people love it. They don't really unless you're

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really improperly trained. We're kind of over where people are getting hurt from it.

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And now it's just like a normal word. Yeah, that's great.

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Well look, we love having you on. Please hit up

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Kristen if you need anything in and around her domain, which seems pretty

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vast and global. She'd rather talk to you and help you than walk her

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dog, you know, but she walks her dog enough so don't worry about taking

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up some of her time and look forward to seeing you at the next couple

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events. And you know, appreciate you kind of waving the Halo flag

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as proudly and as aggressively as you are. So appreciate everything.

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Absolutely. It's. I'm a lifelong believer, and I also look forward to the

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next Academy. Pete. Awesome. All right. On three. Halo. One,

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two, three. Halo. Halo. Bam.

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