Aug. 26, 2025

Episode #564: Mindset, Health, and High Performance with Former NFL Pro Larry English

Episode #564: Mindset, Health, and High Performance with Former NFL Pro Larry English
Episode #564: Mindset, Health, and High Performance with Former NFL Pro Larry English
HALO Talks: Elevating Wellness
Episode #564: Mindset, Health, and High Performance with Former NFL Pro Larry English

On this episode of HALO Talks, host Pete Moore sits down with Larry English—former NFL player, real estate developer, and now the mind behind Mind Body Mastery and the Union Capital Company. Larry opens up about his journey from achieving his childhood dream of playing in the NFL, to facing the tough transition into business and entrepreneurship. He shares the pivotal realization that his champion mindset and focus on health, once honed as a pro athlete, was just as essential in the world of business.

Larry talks about the importance of optimizing the "operator behind the business," using a data-driven approach to health and performance that goes far beyond "typical" fitness routines. Learn how a life-changing moment—watching the film "Concussion"—sparked his commitment to longevity and cognitive health, leading him to invest heavily in cutting-edge wellness strategies. Now, Larry helps executives and entrepreneurs unlock their peak potential through personalized, high-accountability programs that blend science, discipline, and mindset.

Don't miss this inspiring conversation that proves whether on the field or in the boardroom, true performance starts with taking care of yourself first. You'll gain actionable insights on building sustainable vitality, avoiding burnout, and playing the long game in health and business.

On the hidden cost of ignoring your own health as an entrepreneur, English states, "As business people, we don't debate or second guess the fact that we need to know our numbers in our business. We need to know our KPIs . . . we need to watch that P&L like a hawk. We need to know our conversion rates and cost per acquisition, leads, how many leads we're bringing in . . . all these things, right? But then we look at our health and we think that it's supposed to just happen on its own, intuitively, by happenstance? And that's just not the case."

Key themes discussed

  • Transition from NFL career to entrepreneurship and business.
  • Importance of health optimization for business performance.
  • Data-driven approach to personal health and performance.
  • Mindset shifts after major career setbacks.
  • Accountability and structure for lasting personal change.
  • Defining success and fulfillment beyond financial achievements.

A few key takeaways:

1. The Importance of Optimizing the "Operator" (You!): Larry emphasizes that just like in sports, your personal health and performance as an entrepreneur or business professional are crucial to overall success. He points out that many professionals fail to recognize that a performance mindset and maintaining health are just as important in business as they are in athletics.

2. Lessons from Professional Sports Transition to Business: Larry draws direct parallels between elite athletics and building a business. He discusses how data-driven approaches, discipline, and having a clear playbook are not just for sports, but equally vital for high-performing business leaders. Just as athletes track performance metrics, business leaders should monitor their KPIs—and their health metrics.

3. Facing and Overcoming Burnout: Burnout isn't just a result of overworking. As Larry puts it, "your operating system is busted." After leaving the NFL, Larry learned the hard way that abandoning a health-first mindset led to a decline in vitality and performance—even as he achieved success in real estate. His story illustrates the need to reset and refocus on personal well-being for sustained high achievement.

4. Data-Driven, Holistic Optimization Programs: Larry's program is built on a holistic, science-based approach. It includes training, nutrition, biomarker optimization (via bloodwork), supplementation, and lifestyle supports. Success isn't just about willpower; it's about a system that offers expert guidance, accountability, and customization to each client's needs—so that health goals can directly power professional and personal ones.

5. Seeing Setbacks as Setups for Transformation: One of Larry's most powerful reflections centers on how a major business deal falling through led him to reconsider his true purpose. Rather than letting the setback define him, it pushed him to pursue his passion for helping others optimize their lives. He now uses the lessons—and the systems—that helped him transition from NFL athlete to successful entrepreneur and coach as a blueprint for others who want to "win the war, not just the game."

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Transcript
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This is Pete Moore on Halo Talks nyc. I have the pleasure of

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bringing to his first podcast on Helo Talks, Larry

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English, ex NFL player, Mind body mastery

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and the man behind optimization. So Larry, welcome

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to the show. Oh, that's a heck of an intro. I appreciate it. I'm happy

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to be here, Pete. Happy to be here with you. Happy to chat. Well, as

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I was saying to you on the, on the, on the prelim here,

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somebody posted one of your pieces of content.

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I just like resonated with me big time. It was like something related to,

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you know, it's not that you're burnt out, it's that your operating system is busted

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and like clean this out. And I've been telling people, you know,

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someone's like, hey, what's the best technology you've ever seen? I'm like, dude, it's a

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human body. And that's like the, it's the sickest device

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on the planet. So deal. Don't, don't tinker with it. Like,

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maximize it. So talk about, you know, you being in the

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NFL and talk about what you're doing now and how this is the final

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pivot of the Larry English show. Yeah, look, this is, that's

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definitely what it is, the final pivot. And look, you know, just to give

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you guys a quick, quick background. Originally from the Midwest,

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from the time I was about this high, right, 9,

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10 years old, I had this big vision, this big vision and dream that I

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would one day play in the NFL. And I was one of those

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type of players and just the type of cat in

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general. Like, I felt that I was often kind of

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underestimated and overlooked. Had a bit of a chip on my shoulder,

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didn't necessarily get the big nod from University of

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Michigan or LSU or SC or things of that nature,

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but I had like the incredible blessing and an opportunity to get a

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scholarship to play at a American Conference school, to play, to play some

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ball. Northern Illinois University in 2009.

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The actualization of a life's dream. Not only do I go to the

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NFL, but I get drafted, the first, first round pick ever to

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come out of that university and then go on to play, you know, a seven

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year NFL career. And I, I can tell you this is one of the most

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incredible opportunities obviously I've ever had. That moment, right, the day

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that that happened, that showed me that truly, truly anything is possible if you,

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you have a clear vision that you believe in and you have faith around it

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and you, you take action on a daily basis. So

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I go about playing my seven year NFL career, get a little banged up,

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a little bruised up, beat up, and I'm looking for the next thing,

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right? Because I think I always held this

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connectivity to the fact that I'm the type of mindset, the

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archetype that needs a championship to be playing for, right. So I said, look,

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the writing was on the raw that my body was not necessarily gonna let me,

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allow me to operate at the highest level in the sport any

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longer. And so the thing me was, what's the next? What's next?

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Right. And just so happened that that ended up being real estate operations and

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development. And so I thankfully started that process

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prior to my retirement from ball, such that when I did in fact

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retire from ball, I had a nice, you know,

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bridge to segue right into it. I had some momentum behind me in the space

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already, right. Had already done some deals the last couple of years

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playing the league. I had actually gotten to the point that fortunately

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I was doing better in the real estate space financially

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than I was in those last couple of years doing league minimums and what have

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you. So I had a lot of vigor,

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vitality and energy moving into this new

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facet of my life, this new professional endeavor within my life. Yeah.

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And that only lasted about a year. Want to know why?

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You want to know why that only lasts about a year? Because I had this

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erroneous idea that now that I was no longer an athlete, now

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my pursuit as a business person was strictly

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intellectual, right? So I underestimated the fact

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that my performance mindset, this health and performance

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mindset that I had held my whole life was critical to all

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facets of life. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I say the business, business is its

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own sport and you better for it. Let me just stop you for a

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second there because, yeah, I've been following you on LinkedIn for about a month

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and as I was preparing for this, I said, hey, let me go check out

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some of your highlight reel from Northern Illinois. So let me tell

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you what I did. So I watched it in regular speed and then

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I watched it in 2X. And you got to watch yourself at double

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speed in there because you pop it off the line on regular

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speed. Like, I'm a huge New York Giants fan, so Lawrence Taylor was my

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boy back in the day. And you were popping off that line. Like I was

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like, LT, I'm seeing LT in my. And then I put you on 2x and

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I'm like, Dude, LE is like just crushing it. Like these guys are going down.

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So. So pop that on 2x when you get a chance about yourself

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because that was enjoyable moment, you know. So you say, yeah, I got into

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business, it took a year. And then I know you, you know, you kind

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of didn't take care of yourself as much as you did, obviously, being a

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professional athlete. And I've been through sagas like that myself where

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it's up and down and sometimes I let my business affect my health

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and almost like, almost like a, a seesaw. It's like, hey, my business go well,

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I don't really have to take care of myself. And then the business going down,

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it's like I got to bring myself back up. And then it's like, you know,

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what if I just optimize my, my health? It actually

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optimizes everything else because people, people see it and the

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energy flows or, or it gets sucked out of you and you don't really have

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anything to, to offer. Yeah, fully. It's like we got to operate,

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optimize the operator behind the business. Yeah, right.

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Then much of the business takes care of itself. It's funny that I look now

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with like a lot of clients that we bring into our programs and what have

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you, and there's this kind of like initial consternation

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around the data driven approach that's necessary to have

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success in your health and performance. Right. But as business people,

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we don't debate or second guess the fact that we need to

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know our numbers in our business. We need to know our KPIs, our OKRs.

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We need to watch that P and L like a hawk. We

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need to know our conversion rates and, you know,

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cost per acquisition and leads and how many Leads, we're bringing in all these

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things, right? But then we look at our health and we think that it's supposed

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to just happen on its own, intuitively, by happenstance,

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right? And that's just not the case. And so, like

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I was saying, look, frankly, my. My vitality, when I

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segued into my pursuits of entrepreneurship,

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they lasted about. About nine to 12 months before I started

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to see the little chinks in the armor, right. I get back from a

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trip, I'm 30 pounds overweight now. It's like, look, what am I doing?

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Like, I started to notice my decision making kind of

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just a little bit off, right. Focus, clarity, not

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quite as sharp. Communication skills, not quite where they.

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Where they could be. And I said, look, I gotta change something, because

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this is gonna be critical to me operating at a high level as a business

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person. It's no different than what it was when I was

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an athlet. But I can tell you that was the initial thing that happened. Well,

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you know, something that happened that was a little bit more

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starkly and imminently

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brought into my awareness. There's a film that came out, I walked into the movie

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theater. Might have been 2015, 2016, I guess, probably would have been

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2016 at the time. A little film

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by Will Smith called Concussion. Oh, yeah. So, look, I've

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already got a little bit of this awareness around health and performance. And then

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I walk into the theater, and unbeknownst to me, I walked out of there. Change,

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because I saw and heard for the first time and saw

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in vivid imagery what this whole CTE thing was about, which

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in essence is a condition that's plagued a lot

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of combat sport and collision sport athletes, even

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soccer players, from heading the ball and stuff like this,

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which is more or less manifest as some of the same

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symptomology you would see in a dementia or an Alzheimer's. Right? Yep. Only

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difference is These guys are 40s, 50s, like

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relatively young people. It's a scary movie to watch and to live through, and

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to watch it as a sport and cheer and knowing that

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that's how quickly the deterioration happened at every

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highlight reel was like another blow, like a woodpecker. That's

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correct. That's correct. I walked out of that theater and I just said,

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look, I just spent the last 20 years of my life running into

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people for a living. Not 20 years explicitly in the league, but just 20 years

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taken together over 20 years that I was seriously focused on

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this sport and I was running into people for a living. Yep.

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So I can tell you right now not only am I going to get back

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in shape to perform at a high level, but whatever that is that I just

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saw, I stand on it. That I will do

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everything within my power to preempt that type of

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future for myself. And when I took that approach

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and I rounded up all the wagons I was

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willing to invest, I invested hundreds of thousands of dollars to really get tip of

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this fear in the health space, to bring my

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metabolic health to where it was at peak and

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my cognitive health to where it was so

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good that I could keep any of those

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crazy symptoms at bay for decades.

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Something really, really interesting happened. I started to see everything

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else in my life come together. I started to see

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my performance, not only physically, but my performance and growth

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and development as a person and a professional

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start to compound exponentially. And so

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I, for about seven years, I kept that secret to

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myself, right. That this was my competitive edge as a business

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person, that I was going to play this close to the vest. It's

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like a joke. It's like a Djokovic tennis, you know, unveiling

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right now, right? Yeah. And so I said, I'm

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gonna keep this close to the vest. Yep. And this is going to be my

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competitive advantage because, look, I'm in this white collar industry around

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in this real estate development and operations realm where everybody else has

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Ivy league pedigree and they've been in the space for 30 years. I'm a new

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guy on the block and I'm some jock, some athlete, right. So how do I

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compete? This is my competitive advantage. Right. So I played it tight to the

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vest until some very,

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you know, challenging or opportune things happened

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in my trajectory. However you want to look at it,

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in essence, what it was, 22, 22 rode along.

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We've grown the business. I made some incredible partnerships. We got into the place

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now where me, in partnership with

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another, you know, really sophisticated individual and his firm,

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we got the opportunity, we won the bid to acquire and take down

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a multiple nine figure asset here in L. A. Life

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changing deal, life changing opportunity, Truly inflection point in the,

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in, in, in this second career of mine.

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high level institutional groups for about four months from about April

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to June of 22. And we end up winning this

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bid late June of 2022. Anybody

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within an earshot of the capital markets knows what happened. About two to three weeks

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after that, we're out to market raising 200 million of equity on

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a deal that's just going to Be a defining moment for me.

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And inflation truly takes off, ticks up.

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Jerome Powell comes in with a 75 basis point rate hike.

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The music stops. So I'm holding onto this opportunity. That's one of

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the biggest opportunities. Arguably, that's a monetary opportunity that's arguably

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bigger than the NFL opportunity that I had. And so

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the rest of 22 is a bloodbath. We're fighting to hang on

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to this deal. And by the end of

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that year, it was very clear that this deal no longer penciled.

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environment would not necessarily be wise. And our capital

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partners felt so as well. And so we dropped that deal

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and we walked. And I can tell you that prompted me to

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recalibrate. It prompted me to recalibrate and ask myself, look,

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is this actually my assignment? Is this what I'm actually supposed to be

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doing? Is this where I'm going to have the biggest impact? Is it in this

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industry? Is it being the deal guy? Is it? Yep. And

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my daughter was, you know, it was about a month before she was born.

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And I, I landed on the fact that, you know what? I think that there's

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something else out here that I'm supposed to be doing. And from that point on,

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I made it a point to just

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simply become clear and figure out what that was.

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This is Pete Moore. I want to let you in on a little secret. There's

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this company called Promotion Vault. And what they do is they give. Out rewards

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from retailers that allow you to incentivize your

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members without having to do zero down and one month free

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or giving away shakes or giving away T shirts. What you want to

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do is build a rewards program that lasts, that people

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value and that doesn't discount your own products and services.

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So here's the deal. There's something called Rewards Vault. The Rewards

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Vault is going to allow a member to set up their own profile.

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They are going to answer questions, you. Are going to get those answers. You're going

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to be able to target those members and you're going to reward them inside your

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club, inside your spa, and outside of the club and

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outside of the spa to get them to. Become loyal, to get them

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to pay. Their monthly dues and to be rewarded

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properly for the actions. A lot of companies are cutting back on rewards.

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You shouldn't be. Promotion Vaults. Your answer, trust me, this is real.

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In our industry. I say this in mergers and acquisitions

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and capital raises list, sometimes the best deals are the deals you don't do.

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Yeah, right. And the ones that you walk away from that could have either been,

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you know, blockbuster, but most likely it

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could have destroyed you. And we look at health club deals with, you know,

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people try and convince themselves like, hey, I really want to do this deal. And

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then when the euphoria and you get into the deal, it's like, you know what,

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I make the decision here. And in your situation, it sounded to

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me, sounds to me like you can't control the

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uncontrollables, which kind of like dovetails nicely into what you're doing

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now. Like control the controllables around you. It does. So, so

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do you think that deal not only like made you pause and kind of

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reset, but also maybe educated you on like, hey, man, like, no

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matter what you do, you can't win every game. Yeah. I mean,

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you know that as an athlete, it's not about whether or not you

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win in the confines of

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the game, the battle, but what it's about is

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do you win the war? And what is winning the war? It's becoming the person

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and fulfilling the assignment that you're here to fulfill. Right. And so there's

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a bunch of little battles within the stretch,

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within the stretch of a war. And what is it about? It's about how we

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respond. Right. In those moments when we're being tested, how do

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we respond? That's who you. That's the only time you ever get the opportunity to

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show who you really are. It's not who you say you are when everything is

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going great, it's how do you show up

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when the cars are down and everything's against you. Yeah.

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I think it also. Would you. One of the things that you put on your,

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on your LinkedIn, I'm not tracking it, you know. Yeah.

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You know, post by post. But one of the things that resonated with me

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is like defining happiness. It's got a lot of different

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important elements to it and it's how do I show up for my

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family, Do I show up for my relationships? Am I

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optimizing who I am? Am I bringing my best to the game?

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So, you know, as you went through this, you know, potentially financially life changing event

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that didn't happen. Right. And it got you to where you are now. You know,

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what do you. How much energy and excitement do you wake up with

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every day to be like, hey, I'm gonna go and fight the war of like

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helping millions of people instead of like, hey, can I get a cap rate that

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might be lower and I get an interest rate, I'm gonna, you know, what do

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we high five at? Over, like 50 basis points. So we high funded over 50,000

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people. Like to explain that to me. You know what, you know what? It.

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You know when it. When it really hit pay dirt for me is when this.

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This is what I realized. The thing that I held so tight to the vest

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for so many years, it was my secret, my competitive advantage. That thing saved me.

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I was fortunate to invest, to be around some of the most

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sophisticated minds in the health space, the performance space.

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And I kissed a lot of frogs, spent money, invested money, trial and

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error. And then we stumbled upon this thing, we call it the peak performance GPS

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now. And so that thing, that process, that system,

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and the five pillars within it were the thing that literally saved me. Because you

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have to understand that this is coming from that guy that walked out of

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the theater that day that didn't know what the future quite looked like. Sure.

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This was the thing that saved me. And the irony is that the thing

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that saved me, I held so tight to the vest as a competitive advantage for

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six to seven years while I'm scaling that real estate,

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our impact and everything that we were growing on the business side there, and I

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just completely inverted that. I completely turned that on its head and

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I said, look, you know what I'm gonna do? Here's what we're doing. The thing

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that saved me, that's gonna be the thing that

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I serve other performers in my realm.

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Right. And that's why everything that I do now

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is just flourishing the way it is. And we're really magnetized in what we're doing

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and the way that we're able to have impact, because I know the power

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of what it is that we found. Yeah. What I do a lot of. And

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we're going to be fast friends here, so we're going to get to know each

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other is, you know, I give everybody my playbook, and I'll be

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like, hey, man, execute this playbook. And I'm not going to hide it from you

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because you need me to actually be the offensive or defensive coordinator.

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I'll tell you everything you need to do, but you got to execute. And you

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only get to execute with me as the head coach or as you. And this,

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you know, it's headed gps. So as you take a look at,

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like, releasing the secret recipe here or

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releasing, like, the playbook, you know, how much

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confidence do you have in the fact that, like, hey, look, you could. You could

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read the playbook. Okay. A lot of people that read recipe books that don't turn

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into five Star chefs. You know, let me take you through it.

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How does that work? Yeah, because we know, and this is with

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anything, with myself to this day.

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The beauty, the beauty of any system is

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the accountability around it, right? So you can have all

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the tactics and the steps and you can actually even understand the

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philosophy, the essence, the strategy of the whole thing. But

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do we have the structure of it? Do we have the

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accountability set up? Do we have that positive reinforcement on a

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regular basis? That's where we come in. And not only do we have,

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you know, some of the most tip of the fear spear professionals

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in the longevity space that oversee our clients and things of that nature. Yes, we

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have all of that. All of the professionals on our, in our,

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within our ecosystem and our team are

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top of the top, right? They're the best out there,

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but beyond them just simply being the best out there, it's the

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actual, actual accountability within the system

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that keeps everyone on track, that keeps, you know, everyone on target

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day by day, week by week, such that at the end of 90 days and

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12 months, you look back at who you were versus who

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you've become and it's a complete 180,

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right? How many people can you take through the system at a time?

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So I, what I can tell you is that right now

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we're at the place where we can do about

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12 on a monthly basis at our top tier

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mentorship level. Because it is, it is in fact, so hands on,

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right? I got direct hands on time,

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one to one with each client

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and so does all of the rest of our team. Right.

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But we're working on making it such that we

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can bring more folks into the system and grow

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that, that, that volume of people that, that we can impact. But like

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I said, it is the, you know, it's chapter,

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it's chapter one, two, three of this thing. And it's the long game that we're

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really playing for. We're focused on being super hands on and everything

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being customized and tailored because that's where, how you get the best

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benefit, right? And how much does it cost

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to get into the program? And then what's the intensity? Because some of the things

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that, and I'll caveat you said in one of your posts,

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hey man, you can work out three days a week really hard and you'll see

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really good results if you work it out properly. You don't have to like devote

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two hours or three hours a day in the gym with, you know, the milk,

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milk carton of water. You know, like you're saying, like, use your time

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wisely. So what, what's the time commitment? Obviously I know what the, I don't

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understand what discipline is like. That's 24, 7 and. But

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what, what does it cost to get in to your, one of your programs? Yeah,

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so look, what I would, what I would do is I, I'd say this first.

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So in this, in this industry where you look at

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full like total optimization customized

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programs, you're talking about a world where

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performance coaches and longevity

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coaches, these guys that are like top in the space,

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you're talking about a realm where people will come and pay for executive

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coaching and health and performance coaching from a health and performance guru

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if you will and just explicitly be paying for coaching alone

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ideas and protocol and be paying five, five, six grand a month.

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Right. Then you look into actual supplementation and

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doctor visits and food and actually planning for training

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and all that. And then by the course of a year you're into the thing

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for 100 grand. Right. And so what we

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decided and what we wanted to do because that's effectively what the peak performance GPS

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is. It is not only the training, it's not only the nutrition,

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it is not only the, what we refer to as

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biomarker optimization, which is blood work.

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Incredible functional medicine and lifestyle practitioners that

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oversee that blood work and put a customized plan together based off that blood work.

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supplements in any prescription therapies. We have options that include

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not only just a nutrition plan and a macronutrient profile and caloric

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intake based off your expenditure, but also we

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get them serviced with our, our, our meal partner which is make

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chef made meals delivered to your door. Incredible stuff

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with the one on physique training coach and what have you. And so we

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can package all of that into

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program offering where you're in the 32 to

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$34,000 range for the course of a year, but you're

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getting all of the underlying components to that. And

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then we also have clients that will come in and say hey, I have a

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chef, so I don't necessarily need the food or hey, let me take a bite

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sized, you know, sticky to apple and I want to come in

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for 90 days. And we can get clients into that for about

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$5,500. But like I said, you got five

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to six people that are hands on

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you of course throughout the course of the team. And I'm

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actually doing biweekly performance coaching with, with each one of those clients,

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they got voxer walkie talkie access to me. So it's definitely a premium

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Program, but it's one of the highest value

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premium programs that you'll find out there just because of the hands on nature of

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this whole thing. Yeah, just, just answer your question for me because,

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you know, I've been around professional athletes. I'm not a professional athlete. I have four

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years eligibility left, by the way, and I was, in 1993, I was

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the athlete of the year at Emory and intramural, so. Oh, wow, let's calibrate.

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Okay, so, but look, I love being around athletes because,

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you know, top performers got a great attitude, always want to

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win. Everything I'm talking about, that we do in our business, we're always doing sports

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analogies about how to win, how to set up your team, you know, what are

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you looking for next? Band up? You know, everything we do, we do two minute

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financial drills, we do fast breaks.

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So being an NFL athlete, like, what is the

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positives and the negatives that, that carry into business

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where people might say, hey man, I'm kind of intimidated

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to kind of like have you coaching me, or I'm

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super inspired and psychedel, like, hey man, you could, you'll take me on. Like, that's

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amazing, you know. Or do you walk into and say, like, hey, I got to

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deal with some guys, got an Ivy League degree, he's been on his real estate

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and he's got a better pedigree than me, but like, dude, I was in the

423
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,000
NFL, so if I'm going to be an elite athlete, I can be the lead

424
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,830
at anything. So maybe like, give it, give me a little bit of the

425
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:29,590
underlying things that you feel or that happen that you're

426
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:33,030
like, hey, maybe I gotta define myself or like

427
00:26:33,030 --> 00:26:36,710
qualify things or knock down some boundaries

428
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:40,430
or barriers that you might have a conceived notion that isn't

429
00:26:40,430 --> 00:26:43,950
true. Barriers that I have to knock down in this space

430
00:26:43,950 --> 00:26:46,870
here, bro. Just saying, like, you know, hey, I'm like,

431
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:50,790
let's say I was like a 35 year old guy that used to watch, you

432
00:26:50,790 --> 00:26:53,590
know, I watch NFL all the time and now like, holy shit, like you're like

433
00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:56,810
my coach. I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm inspired. I might also be a little

434
00:26:56,810 --> 00:27:00,570
bit intimidated. Like, you know, like, hey, I work at a desk job. Yeah, Look,

435
00:27:00,570 --> 00:27:04,330
I mean the thing that I can tell you is that, yeah, despite the fact

436
00:27:04,330 --> 00:27:07,490
that I did in fact play in the NFL,

437
00:27:08,530 --> 00:27:12,330
I'm a businessman, I'm a business person and have been for the

438
00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:16,050
better part of the last 10 years explicitly business

439
00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:19,850
person. And I'm not only just

440
00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:23,540
a business person, but I'm a business person with a family. And

441
00:27:23,540 --> 00:27:27,060
so no, gone are the days of where

442
00:27:27,700 --> 00:27:31,180
sport was literally the only thing on my

443
00:27:31,180 --> 00:27:34,740
plate, where that's all we had to focus on, where it

444
00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:38,580
was 12 hours a day, six, seven

445
00:27:38,580 --> 00:27:42,180
days a week, focused on that sport and us

446
00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:45,620
putting the best entertainment product and work product

447
00:27:45,860 --> 00:27:49,670
out there on the field on Sundays. Right. Those days are gone. And

448
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:52,870
so what I would say to that is I've had to

449
00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:55,910
adapt and take

450
00:27:56,710 --> 00:28:00,550
the best mechanisms

451
00:28:00,550 --> 00:28:03,990
from that realm and bring them forward into

452
00:28:04,390 --> 00:28:08,110
the life of a modern day business person, high performer entrepreneur that has a

453
00:28:08,110 --> 00:28:11,870
family, that doesn't have two hours to spend in the gym, five, six days a

454
00:28:11,870 --> 00:28:15,290
week, that, you know, has a

455
00:28:15,290 --> 00:28:19,090
multi faceted set of demands on them on a

456
00:28:19,090 --> 00:28:22,930
daily basis, that has a team looking to them for leadership and performance and

457
00:28:24,370 --> 00:28:28,050
mentorship, if you will. Right. And so given the fact

458
00:28:28,050 --> 00:28:31,730
that I've walked both paths, I would

459
00:28:31,810 --> 00:28:34,450
make the argument that it actually

460
00:28:37,090 --> 00:28:40,930
allows me to be very credible here. Right. Because I, because I know

461
00:28:40,930 --> 00:28:44,720
the ins and outs of it. And that is the basis for

462
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,360
why, where I saw this void in the marketplace where no one had

463
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,120
created the solution that was actually built for

464
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,120
a high performer and takes in

465
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,400
the realistic dynamic that is is required to

466
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,840
understand somebody that has those type of demands on themselves, someone

467
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,600
running, scaling and building a business that also needs

468
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,560
to operate at the highest level from vitality and performance

469
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,320
standpoint as well. So it's like, how do you do that? Right. Yeah, that's what

470
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,520
this, that's what this does.

471
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This is Pete Moore. Here's the last tip for you of the podcast.

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489
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the workout.

490
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I'll tell you to support what you're saying to our audience here is. And I

491
00:30:34,020 --> 00:30:37,020
get hit with business plans and people hitting us up for

492
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introductions. A lot of people come at this life game

493
00:30:41,340 --> 00:30:44,860
from a technology standpoint. And it'll come at it from a life

494
00:30:44,860 --> 00:30:48,660
standpoint. Like you might develop this really cool nutrition plan,

495
00:30:48,660 --> 00:30:52,420
but like, show me where it's been implemented, you

496
00:30:52,420 --> 00:30:55,980
know, and it actually creates optimization, to use your term. You know,

497
00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:59,820
like, let's go from the athlete to a business person

498
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:03,620
and like that aging and that longevity and like, can I

499
00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:07,420
still power myself at. I tell people as a joke, you

500
00:31:07,420 --> 00:31:10,620
know, like I'm like an iPhone 4, right. I'm trying to make myself an iPhone

501
00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:13,660
15, right. I gotta like keep using the same hardware,

502
00:31:14,380 --> 00:31:17,100
an operating system. So, you know,

503
00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:21,460
given that you've like lived through it and that you, that you live it and

504
00:31:21,460 --> 00:31:25,100
you use it, I guess the question, rhetorical

505
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:28,580
question is like how much, how easy it is to basically say, hey, just get

506
00:31:28,580 --> 00:31:32,360
on my, get on board. Like I'm, I'm like proof of that this works.

507
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,080
You know what I mean? Well though, yeah, I'm a product of the product. Yeah,

508
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,520
I like that. I definitely am. I think what I would say

509
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,840
is, especially for

510
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,520
the folks that come into our

511
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,480
premium programs, right, Is that what

512
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,120
really sets the foundation

513
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,560
of optimization, especially in the world that we live in today,

514
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,080
is taking this data driven approach on things

515
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,000
and doing the blood work not just for the sake of getting the

516
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,520
blood work done, but to see, okay, where am

517
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,280
I specifically deficient? And I stand

518
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,040
on the fact, right, I put it to you that

519
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,800
99% of grown individuals

520
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,610
walking around today are deficient in, you know,

521
00:32:25,170 --> 00:32:28,970
something. Sure. Like a variable things in many, in, in

522
00:32:28,970 --> 00:32:32,690
many cases, it's the environment that we live in today. Right. We did not

523
00:32:32,690 --> 00:32:36,450
evolve to live in this environment that we live in today. Or it's screen time

524
00:32:36,450 --> 00:32:40,210
all the time. It's sedentary lifestyles, it's wi fi signals, it's

525
00:32:40,210 --> 00:32:43,890
endocrine disruptors, it's microplastic, all in the environment. This is not the environment

526
00:32:43,890 --> 00:32:47,730
that we evolved in. Right? And so due to that

527
00:32:47,890 --> 00:32:51,720
lack of nutrients in the soil, still there are so many deficiencies. So

528
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,560
it's addressing those deficiencies, right? Then that's that

529
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,240
you're coming in at the biological level of setting the foundation and

530
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,520
your conventional, even this concierge doctor that waits

531
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,240
on you hand and foot, that's like a butler for like wealthy

532
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,320
sick people, right? Even those guys that take

533
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,000
this conventional medicine approach, their job is not

534
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,660
to get you to optimal. It's to keep you alive. Sure.

535
00:33:18,660 --> 00:33:22,140
So they're going to tell you that, oh yeah, you're good. Right. You need someone

536
00:33:22,540 --> 00:33:26,140
to the extent you have big goals and you see a big vision for your

537
00:33:26,140 --> 00:33:29,820
future and your capacity. Right. And you want to unlock that,

538
00:33:30,220 --> 00:33:33,500
then you need to have a practitioner and a medical practitioner

539
00:33:33,820 --> 00:33:36,980
that is on par with that same vision as you like. We want to get

540
00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:40,460
you to as close to 100% as possible. You'll never get to 100%

541
00:33:40,940 --> 00:33:44,470
but the mission is to get, getting to where we're having

542
00:33:44,550 --> 00:33:48,390
and stacking perfect days. So how do we do that? We need to

543
00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:51,630
be clear, we need to be focused. We need a vitality energy. What is the

544
00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:55,470
data and the on the blood work that maps to those outcomes and are

545
00:33:55,470 --> 00:33:59,190
you deficient in any of those, in any of those numbers? So

546
00:33:59,190 --> 00:34:02,710
it's that first and then, yes, the discipline comes into it.

547
00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:06,470
And setting the basics with nutrition training, for

548
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:09,910
muscle preservation, for longevity, these are the things that make up

549
00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:14,389
the basis of the system and what is frankly just required. I

550
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:18,189
think the science is, is, is out. It backs a lot of this stuff, stuff

551
00:34:18,189 --> 00:34:21,949
up. Now can you go into like the next level of optimization and get into

552
00:34:21,949 --> 00:34:25,749
peptides and all the exotics? Of course. But

553
00:34:26,229 --> 00:34:29,989
is that the foundation? No, the foundation is proven. You know what I'm

554
00:34:29,989 --> 00:34:33,149
saying? Yeah. Well, you know, I used to work with, as I mentioned before we

555
00:34:33,149 --> 00:34:36,829
got on here, you know, I used to work with Gold's Gym and you

556
00:34:36,829 --> 00:34:40,669
know, the most effective marketing campaigns were the before and after

557
00:34:40,669 --> 00:34:44,300
pictures and they used to have a body, a hundred thousand dollar body

558
00:34:44,380 --> 00:34:47,820
transformation challenge. And I feel like with what you're doing

559
00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:51,300
and I don't know how much you use like before and after, but like here's

560
00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:55,100
the stats of what Pete Moore was before. Here's what, you know, after

561
00:34:55,180 --> 00:34:58,940
gps. I love GPS by the way. After gps, this is like his

562
00:34:58,940 --> 00:35:01,780
stats and here's how he looks and this is how he feels. This is what

563
00:35:01,780 --> 00:35:05,420
is, you know, even just looking at like somebody's face, you know, they can do

564
00:35:05,420 --> 00:35:09,180
all these like. Yeah, thousand words, right? Yeah, it's,

565
00:35:09,180 --> 00:35:11,900
it's the picture. And then it's like, okay, let me flip to like the back

566
00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:15,600
of like his playing car. Be like, holy cow, like look at these stats. Yeah.

567
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,320
You know, I feel like that's the way longevity and anti

568
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,920
aging and optimization is going to get sold to people who say

569
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,600
like, I didn't think that could happen. I thought that's like an infomercial

570
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,840
and I think the stats in a before. And after picture and by the way,

571
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,400
I did at one point as well, it like, it's hard. Like when

572
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,840
I was sitting there, you know, 2016,

573
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,880
I think probably 2017, I, I'm still struggling a little bit to

574
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,600
figure things out because it was a new, it was a new

575
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,720
environment that I was in. I was used to being on the field, running around

576
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:52,440
for six to 12 hours a day. Right. And training every single moment every day.

577
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,520
And so like how in a real world scenario

578
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,280
do I operate as a healthy person? It took me some time to figure that

579
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,120
out. Right. And when I had hit my

580
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,030
rock bottom, if you will, it was actually a little bit hard

581
00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:12,550
to see this new version of myself that I had no

582
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:15,630
clue if I was ever going to get there. And now looking back on that

583
00:36:15,630 --> 00:36:18,870
and I remember where my mind was at. I was just racking my brain to

584
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:22,590
figure this out. Everything was so hard until it all came

585
00:36:22,590 --> 00:36:25,070
together. And now I look back on it like, oh, all you have to do

586
00:36:25,070 --> 00:36:27,470
is this and go here and then move there and there and then you're done.

587
00:36:27,630 --> 00:36:31,230
Right? Yeah. But when you're clouded,

588
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,800
when you're inflamed, when you're carrying around 30, 40

589
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,560
extra pounds, it can be pretty like self defeating. You feel

590
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,920
like, ah, this is another guy trying to sell me some B.S. that's not real.

591
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,240
But that's just not the case. It's not like it's been. Do you have people

592
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,760
coming to you, being

593
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,520
referred by friends or be referred by a partner or they come in and

594
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,270
being like, hey man, like I'm ready, I'm ready to change or I

595
00:36:59,270 --> 00:37:02,910
mean, how's that? Because I, 90 days, exactly 90 days ago, I,

596
00:37:02,910 --> 00:37:06,630
I, I, I changed my life and I started working out every day again.

597
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:10,350
I stopped eating ice cream Mac and cheese fries. I was, and I

598
00:37:10,350 --> 00:37:13,230
let my business and the, and the stress of my business basically

599
00:37:13,710 --> 00:37:17,510
physically take me down. And I just, I woke up on my birthday and

600
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:21,110
I was just like, I'm done. And, and I've, I've dropped

601
00:37:21,110 --> 00:37:24,950
22 pounds in the last 90 days. I've been doing the 90 minutes

602
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:28,250
and I feel much better and I, I feel like I'm on top of everything

603
00:37:28,250 --> 00:37:31,850
and I'm, and there are less things that are not

604
00:37:31,850 --> 00:37:35,370
controllable in my brain right now as far as I'm concerned.

605
00:37:35,850 --> 00:37:38,970
And I hear exactly what you say. Like when the fogs, when there's no fog,

606
00:37:38,970 --> 00:37:42,690
dude, there's nothing that's like holding you back. Like you are really

607
00:37:42,690 --> 00:37:46,330
could Be super. You could really be a superhuman. It's a beautiful thing. It really

608
00:37:46,330 --> 00:37:49,970
is. So, so back to my original question. Are you

609
00:37:49,970 --> 00:37:53,610
coming with like, I got some buddies that are super intense and

610
00:37:53,770 --> 00:37:56,050
every once in a while I'm just like, dude, we should just do an intervention

611
00:37:56,050 --> 00:37:59,570
with this guy and just like send him somewhere. And maybe sending him not to

612
00:37:59,570 --> 00:38:03,250
rehab because maybe it's not rehab. Maybe it's just like a life reset

613
00:38:03,250 --> 00:38:06,970
and like a gps. Yeah. You

614
00:38:06,970 --> 00:38:10,330
know, here's what, here's what. What I'd say is

615
00:38:11,050 --> 00:38:14,730
like a rehab scenario. It's like we're trying to

616
00:38:15,290 --> 00:38:18,330
patch up the holes to get to baseline and what have you. And

617
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,360
I don't necessarily know exactly how motivating that is.

618
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,680
What I, what I feel is the most effective is to

619
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,720
have a brighter vision for someone,

620
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,560
an ideal future for them and make it so clear that

621
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,880
this thing can be possible for them. Yeah. And that's the

622
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,000
mechanism for change, is seeing that clarity

623
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,560
of vision of what things actually could be. And so let's move toward that.

624
00:38:47,220 --> 00:38:50,940
Right. Then you can muster the courage and the energy to make the

625
00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:54,180
changes. Because like for myself, for instance, I.

626
00:38:55,460 --> 00:38:59,020
When, when you take into account like just going through like different periods of my

627
00:38:59,020 --> 00:39:02,100
life where I'm just like even just like the social drinking and stuff like that,

628
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:05,420
that stuff can kind of have a snowball effect where next thing you know, like

629
00:39:05,420 --> 00:39:08,660
you're having a few drinks a few times a night and then you just kind

630
00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:12,420
of just the constant state of malaise throughout the week. Now when there's an

631
00:39:12,420 --> 00:39:15,460
actual performance cost and I know that the next day,

632
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,080
like I need to operate at the highest level and this

633
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,760
thing is going to impede that because I got some

634
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,560
big things to do. Yeah. Big version of myself to become.

635
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,240
Yeah. Right. That cost benefit analysis that we run is like,

636
00:39:31,479 --> 00:39:35,000
oh, it's a no brainer. Like I, I don't even have time for that stuff,

637
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,720
guys. Right. That's how I feel right now. And so, so yeah,

638
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:42,550
it's like, but it takes. You need to have somebody show you

639
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:46,070
what it could be. Right. And then really get sold on that vision of

640
00:39:46,070 --> 00:39:48,990
becoming that and actualizing that, that new version. Right.

641
00:39:49,550 --> 00:39:53,150
And. And then, yeah, we definitely take referrals in that,

642
00:39:53,150 --> 00:39:56,870
in that standpoint because those are the types of individuals that

643
00:39:56,870 --> 00:40:00,590
can actually make the biggest leaps forward. Do you know what I'm saying?

644
00:40:00,670 --> 00:40:04,430
Yep. They can just starkly become like a completely different person,

645
00:40:04,590 --> 00:40:08,110
you know, so, so yeah, that is

646
00:40:08,110 --> 00:40:11,660
definitely like a framework for which we, for which we'll Work and take on,

647
00:40:12,780 --> 00:40:16,620
take on community members. Yeah. Well, listen, you've. You've been great to talk

648
00:40:16,620 --> 00:40:19,700
to. I'm glad we linked up. Yeah. We try to keep these to 30 minutes

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for our listeners here. We've got a lot of health club operators, fitness

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boutique studio entrepreneurs, people that are. That are serving the industry

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in all different facets. So definitely highly encourage people

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to listen to this and reach out to Larry directly.

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Peak performance gps. And Larry, I'll be in touch with you separately. We got a

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book coming to you and love to see you in person when I'm about out

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in LA and I'll be living in Arizona and maybe I could get on the

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peak performance and be a. An optimizer

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in real life, which would be awesome. So I've set the framework for that. So

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I'm coming in. I'm coming in as almost like a D1 athlete, but I'm trying

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to get to the, to the pros with you. So let's make that happen. It's

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incredible when you've set the foundation because then you got the basics taken care of,

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like what you're doing. Yeah. You've already set that, that foundation for

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discipline. To the extent we got our nutrition right. That's gonna like,

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promote, like us getting healthy rest and sleep. That's gonna really fuel the

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system. And then we start to just add on those optimizations and then

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it's kind of to the moon, you know? Yeah. I mean, I think when people

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start to make a little bit of life change and they see that, hey, it

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wasn't that hard to get here. I just actually just put in the work and

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it's actually. The human body is an amazing device

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that allows you to get instant gratification, which is one

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of the best things, whether it's endorphins or whether it's physical, you know, changes

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in your body. So. Hey, man, listen, welcome to the halo sector. Love what you're

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doing. Psyched about where you're going and that you're gonna help a lot of people.

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And, you know, I always say that if you're gonna go, if you're gonna go

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win, you better have a playbook. You gotta have somebody architect that into reality. So

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I used to say I'm a dream architect. I'll make you a dream architect right

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now. Poof. You're a dream architect. I love it. All right, man, great to

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meet you. Thanks for coming on. And we'll get this edited. And Dave, what? We'll

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see if we get this out sometime in August. Okay. Nice thanks for having me,

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Pete. Hey, man, that was great talking to you. Appreciate it.