HALO Talks Fast Break: Revolutionizing Club Benefits-Amy Bach on Welld Health's Impact Across 10,000 Locations
This HALO Talks Fast Break is a must-listen for operators looking to streamline insurance payment headaches and unlock new member revenue with Welld Health. Amy Bach is their Chief Commercial Officer. She joined Pete Moore for a rapid-fire rundown on how tech is transforming check-in reimbursement for gyms and studios nationwide.
Some takeaways:
🚦 Real-Time Reimbursement Replaces Frustrations
Remember when waiting 2 months for a payout (if it ever came) was "business as usual"? That's history. Welld integrates with member management systems and benefit providers (think OnePass, SilverSneakers), turning manual, opaque processes into real-time eligibility checks and payments. Amy explained that gyms now know instantly when a member is (or isn't) eligible, slashing reject rates to under 1% when implemented properly [02:29].
📊 A Market Too Big To Ignore
Fitness benefits are a top-three request on Medicare Advantage plans, right behind vision and hearing. But it's not just the 65+ crowd anymore . . . these programs are exploding commercially, attracting younger demos as well [03:32]. If you're not in a network, you're missing out on members whose choices are shaped by their plans.
💡 Rethinking "Cannibalization?" They're Paid Leads!
Afraid you'll lose margins? Think again. Clubs are upselling new members brought in from reimbursement programs with premium recovery, unlimited studio visits, and other extras. These aren't lost traditional members, they're qualified leads you get paid for on day one [04:29].
🚀 Operators Already Winning
Welld is now powering 60% of Planet Fitness locations and working with Crunch, EOS, Solidcore, F45, and Xponential. The only real barrier? If your software isn't robust enough to integrate, and even then, that's changing fast [05:24]
Front desk teams are thrilled. Onboarding is simple. Revenue flows faster. According to Bach: "Once we get in front of people and explain what we can do, it's a no-brainer."
**Bottom Line**
If you're still manually tracking eligibility or leaving reimbursement dollars on the table, it's time for a change. Schedule a demo and join the operators seeing real impact, both on the P&L and the member experience.
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Resources:
- Welld Health: https://www.welldhealth.com/
- Amy Bach: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amyleebach/
- Prospect Wizard: https://www.theprospectwizard.com
- Promotion Vault: https://www.promotionvault.com
- HigherDose: https://www.higherdose.com
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This is Pete Moore on Halo Talks NYC. I am
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bringing to a fast break a good friend of Integrity
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Square, Amy Bach, for many years from Weld Health,
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Chief Commercial Officer. Sounds like a big title. Tell us
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about what's going on at Weld and how you've been doing. Yeah,
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so I've been at Weld for about 18 months now, and it
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has been an absolutely wild ride in the best possible way.
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You know, Weld has grown dramatically over the past few
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months here. We're helping over 10,000 locations now,
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really with a focus on these check-in reimbursement programs.
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So you've heard of, you know, OnePass or Tivity SilverSneakers
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or Active and Fit and things like that. And Weld's really the
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technology solution that steps in and makes those programs so much easier
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to run. I mean, it used to be where you just rely on
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whatever checks you would get. from the aggregators or
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from some of these, uh, plans or funds. So just talk about,
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uh, the frustration that's been solved and like the percentage
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reimbursements that you're able to get on Weld. Yeah, so we
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actually came out of the ACAC gym chain for exactly that
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reason, right? They saw these, they had all these issues with it, the lack of
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transparency, the lack of understanding of how these insurance
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reimbursement programs were really working. And without that transparency, that
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reporting, all of that, it was also hard to optimize them. So Well
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jumped in and took something that used to have almost a 2-month delay in getting
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a real response of if you were going to get paid for a member or
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not and turned that into a real-time integration. So on one
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side, we integrate with the benefit providers like
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OnePass, ASH, and Tivity. And then on the other side, we're integrated with the
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member management systems. So we're integrated with over a dozen member management
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systems at this point in time, groups like ABC, all the Daxco
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family of brands, ClubReady, Mindbody, you name it, you know,
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we have those integrations. And because of that being integrated on both sides,
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we're really able to make this a real-time thing. So when somebody
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loses eligibility on the 5th of the month, you know, on the 5th of the
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month that you're no longer going to be compensated for those visits. So
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it really allows facilities to make sure
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that they're letting people in that are eligible because we do that real-time eligibility check
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at the beginning. But then also be notified when they're no longer going to be
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eligible so that you're really only letting people in that you're ultimately going to
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get paid for. Gotcha. With that, we are able to get our reject
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rates down below 1% the vast majority of times when
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customers implement Weld correctly. And what do you say to
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some of the people that maybe, you know, 5 to 10 years ago used
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to be on some of these systems but always said, you know,
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it's either, you know, denigrating my sale of memberships,
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or it's, you know, I'm not getting paid what I thought I was getting paid.
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What's kind of like the new normal? Or, you know, if you could reference any
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of the club chains that you guys work with just to say like,
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look, everybody's doing it now. Like, it's not something to, to be
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steadfast to against anymore. Yeah, I mean, it's just
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growing. This whole market and this member base out there,
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potential member base, just continues to grow. Fitness benefits remain
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still in the top 3 most popular benefits of
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Medicare Advantage plans, right? Vision, and hearing only above it.
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And then on top of that, we've seen this huge influx in the commercial side
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of things. So people used to always think about this as 65+, you know,
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really the silver sneakers, Medicare crowd. And in the
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past few years, we've just seen tremendous growth on the commercial side of things.
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So with that, you're also getting, you know, younger people in. And to the
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cannibalization question, I mean, people look at what their benefits are
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and they choose their facility that they're going to work out in based off of
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that. Right. So if you're not in that network, You're not going to get that
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member. But what we've also seen is clubs really learning how to
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optimize these programs outside of that. So yes, you get the base membership
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with your, you know, fitness benefit, but now we're going to take you on a
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tour as soon as we verify your eligibility, and we are going to show you
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how amazing our recovery space is. And hey, that's in the premium tier. So we're
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going to give you this little upsell, and you're going to pay us directly for
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that additional access and benefit. Or if it's a studio and you
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get 4 visits, Okay, great, but you could upgrade to unlimited for this
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amount. And watching our— yeah, watching customers
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really understand that and optimize that has really been
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great growth for them. So a lot of times people are actually seeing these members
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as paid leads, right? You're not paying for them, you're actually getting paid
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for them. And then you can add on on top of what the fitness benefit
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providers will give you. And what are some of, if any,
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of the hesitations with people getting on the wealth system? Because it seems to
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me like a win-win-win for everybody
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involved. Most definitely. Um, you know, I've
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absolutely had the— I've had the, the benefit of being in a
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position where sales are quite easy these days in a great way. Um, you know,
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people come in, we've been— we've gone live with 60% of
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all Planet Fitness locations over the past year. Um, we have
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Crunch, we have EOS, we're working with studio groups like Solid Core,
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F45, Exponential. And once people— once we get in front of
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people and really explain what we're able to do and also the
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pricing model behind it, it's usually a pretty easy sell
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for us. You know, hesitations or blockers we've had
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historically are if we don't have a member management system with strong
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enough APIs, right? If we can't integrate with it, we're not able to
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add as much value. So sometimes the member management system that someone is on
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really does limit us. But outside of that,
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it's usually just getting people to change a process that they've been doing for 20
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years. And that in itself can be a little difficult sometimes.
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But once we're in there, the first thing that we hear is how happy front
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desk staff is and how much we've made their lives so much easier. Great.
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All right. Well, you heard it here first. If you have not been on Weld
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yet or gotten a demo, get in touch with Amy and the team there
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and go Halo. And we love what you guys are doing. So congrats. Congrats on—
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I'll move it over to this side of the house. Thanks so much, Pete.
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